An incredible auction of bagpipes
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An incredible auction of bagpipes
All seem to be authentic old ones, too.
http://gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/Catalogue ... ge001.html
http://gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/Catalogue ... ge001.html
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Re: An incredible auction of bagpipes
Hey Yuri, you still making whistles?Yuri wrote:All seem to be authentic old ones, too.
http://gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/Catalogue ... ge001.html
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Re: An incredible auction of bagpipes
& all worthless without reeds
The Chabrette & original Bechonnet conremuses are very interesting. Both zampogne are nothing out of the ordinary at all. Still, its quite an impressive buttload of pipes. Wonder whose???
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Re: An incredible auction of bagpipes
Not really. What I do is double medieval pipes, both bag, and flue. Mostly, that is. I sort of gave up on whistles. I si9mply do not understand the musical requirements, as I don't play them myself.maki wrote:Hey Yuri, you still making whistles?Yuri wrote:All seem to be authentic old ones, too.
http://gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/Catalogue ... ge001.html
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Re: An incredible auction of bagpipes
Wasn't Sean Folsom specialising in just that, recreating reeds for bagpipes that had none? And I'm sure there are others that can do just that, too.CHasR wrote:& all worthless without reeds
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Re: An incredible auction of bagpipes
Yes if Sean got his hands on that lot he would have them all singing, and be using them on gigs! There are probably very few (if any) other people who would know how to reed all of those.
They all need new bags too, probably.
BTW does anybody remember an eccentric pipemaker named Richard Maheu? He made all of those Eastern European pipes, as well as various French pipes, Northumbrian smallpipes, Scottish Lowland pipes, and uilleann pipes. No matter what sort of pipes he made they all sort of looked the same, a "Danish Modern" look to them, very plain, "form follows function" as he told me. Every now and then I'll come across an obvious Maheu set, for example there's a museum that has a Maheu Cabrette in it, and I saw a Maheu "ancient Irish warpipe" for sale somewhere.
They all need new bags too, probably.
BTW does anybody remember an eccentric pipemaker named Richard Maheu? He made all of those Eastern European pipes, as well as various French pipes, Northumbrian smallpipes, Scottish Lowland pipes, and uilleann pipes. No matter what sort of pipes he made they all sort of looked the same, a "Danish Modern" look to them, very plain, "form follows function" as he told me. Every now and then I'll come across an obvious Maheu set, for example there's a museum that has a Maheu Cabrette in it, and I saw a Maheu "ancient Irish warpipe" for sale somewhere.
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Re: An incredible auction of bagpipes
Who wrote the descriptions for these pipes?
Zampogna: The Soul of Southern Italy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pa4W7iA5So
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pa4W7iA5So
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Re: An incredible auction of bagpipes
auction house or the seller, i surmise.
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Re: An incredible auction of bagpipes
Well it seems like it was written by someone who has a general knowledge of bagpipes, though not really an expert on the different varieties. The Italian pipe labeled as a Surdulina is rather curious. I don't think it's a surdulina. Knowing whether it has a thumb hole on the melody chanter would clear things up, but I suspects it's just a small sized "a paro" pipe from either Southern Calabria or Messina, Sicily. What's throwing me off is that it has a cylindrical bored drone, but I have seen that on occasion and it makes sense for a small sized pipe in terms of making the construction easier.
Zampogna: The Soul of Southern Italy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pa4W7iA5So
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pa4W7iA5So
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For that matter, the first of the "Romanian" sets is very unlikely to be Romanian. It's indistinguishable from a type of Bulgarian gaida. I cannot guarantee that, but I never heard of this type being played in Romania.
And another thing. The "bamboo" that constantly crops up in the more "primitive" sets' descriptions is not actually bamboo. It's cane. There is no bamboo growing in those areas.
And another thing. The "bamboo" that constantly crops up in the more "primitive" sets' descriptions is not actually bamboo. It's cane. There is no bamboo growing in those areas.
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Re: An incredible auction of bagpipes
You're right, Yuri - it is a Kaba Gaida from the Rhodope mountains of Bulgaria.
The second "Romanian" set is actually a Slavonian Gajde.
The second "Romanian" set is actually a Slavonian Gajde.
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Re: An incredible auction of bagpipes
The pipes described under Lot 0012 do not look to be by Bechonnet. and are by 'Pajot Fils' (1863-1935) of Jenzat, Allier, Auvergne Region, France who made pipes and Hurdy Gurdys. If they stamped the bellows Pajot Fils then they may well be a recycled bellows originally by Bechonnet (1820-1900)
If you find yourself in central France then the house at Jenzat is worth a visit especially if you can get to Montlucon as well and see the collection of pipes (mostly French) and Gurdys on display but you will need to get permission in advance as most is locked away and only a small proportion is on view to the public.
If you find yourself in central France then the house at Jenzat is worth a visit especially if you can get to Montlucon as well and see the collection of pipes (mostly French) and Gurdys on display but you will need to get permission in advance as most is locked away and only a small proportion is on view to the public.
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Re: An incredible auction of bagpipes
the bagpipe that the site called sordellina is a zampogna that i never saw.
It isn't a surdulina, because a surdulina has cylindrical single-reeded chanters of the same lenght and with the same number of holes, but not even a zampogna zoppa...
It isn't a surdulina, because a surdulina has cylindrical single-reeded chanters of the same lenght and with the same number of holes, but not even a zampogna zoppa...
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I think it's an a-paro from Sicily or maybe southern Calabria.memling wrote:the bagpipe that the site called sordellina is a zampogna that i never saw.
It isn't a surdulina, because a surdulina has cylindrical single-reeded chanters of the same lenght and with the same number of holes, but not even a zampogna zoppa...
Zampogna: The Soul of Southern Italy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pa4W7iA5So
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pa4W7iA5So
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Re: An incredible auction of bagpipes
Wow, did someone burgle Alan Jones recently?