Laments and Ballads?

aderyn_du · Post by **aderyn_du** » Thu Sep 26, 2002 12:38 pm

I'm looking for laments and ballads (sort of a personal research project

) and was wondering if some of you could share some names of ones you enjoy playing/hearing? Especially ones that evoke an emotional response in you...

Thanks,
Andrea ~*~

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peeplj · Post by **peeplj** » Thu Sep 26, 2002 12:57 pm

"Barbara Allen" is always good.

"The Holland Handkerchief" will raise all the hair on the back of your neck, as will "She Moved Through the Fair."

I can't hear "The Parting of Friends" without remembering sadness.

And of course "The Parting Glass."

Best wishes and *BB*

--James
http://www.flutesite.com

StevieJ · Post by **StevieJ** » Thu Sep 26, 2002 12:58 pm

The old man rocking the cradle...

Byll · Post by **Byll** » Thu Sep 26, 2002 1:08 pm

Women of Ireland.
Cheers.
Byll

MurphyStout · Post by **MurphyStout** » Thu Sep 26, 2002 2:02 pm

An Speic Seoigheach and limerick's lament.

thurlowe · Post by **thurlowe** » Thu Sep 26, 2002 2:41 pm

Anything from Cara Dillon's CD, "Cara Dillon" (and no, it's not because we have the same first name).

http://www.caradillon.co.uk

Especially "Donald of Glencoe"

Cara L.

LeeMarsh · Post by **LeeMarsh** » Thu Sep 26, 2002 3:21 pm

From out of my folky past, some tales in song that have marked me and my times.

Frozen Logger - Taught to me by my dad, one of few he sang, on a cold night camping.
Barbree(Barbra) Allen - My Aunt (Ruth Allen) and cousins (Katty and Susan Allen) sang in three part harmony in Nashville while cleaning up the dishes, after a grand dinner.
Polly Von - First song I used to a, uhm, a ... try and court a lady.
Edmund Fitzgerald - A tragic song, brought to mind each time I watch a thunder storm on Lake Erie.
Talking Candy Bar Blues - Giving up on using tragic songs to attract the lassies, I found this one won me a smile and a kiss or two.
MTA - The original political satire song of which my friends and I re-worked the lyrics often to complain about the state we were in.
County Clair - Irish immigrant song that minded me that missing home was universal.
Traveling Lady - the desire for even temporary relief from lonely nights.
The Great Mandella - a tribute to another type of bravery.
Very Last Day - Justice betrayed brings destruction, a common theme for me in the late 60's.
King of Names - the sorrow of oppression and prejudice.
The Blacksmith - a womans wrath o'er love betrayed and rejected.
It Came To Pass (The Christmas Dinner) - a tale of christmas generosity, the true meaning of the season.
Marvelous Toy - the wonder of childhood, sung to my son, Jonathan.
Puff the Magic Dragon - Sung at bedside. on my second date with their mom, enthralled the hearts of Elizebeth and Becca, and won the heart of my dearly beloved Peg.
By Your Side - On bended knee, at our wedding reception, my first song sung, to the last Mrs. Marsh of my life, Peg.
An Feochan - puts to mind the passing of flute player Frankie Kennedy, and puts to rememberance untimely losses of friends who have passed over.
And the ultimate long ballad or tale of my generation - Alices Restaurant.

A life without music is un-imaginable for me. Here's hoping each of you can likewise live and ...

_________________

Enjoy Your Music, Lee Marsh 

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blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » Thu Sep 26, 2002 3:35 pm

Amhran na Leabhar as sung by Emer Kenny, Ailein Duinn as sung by Karen Matheson of Capercaillie, Anachuin as done by Seamus Tansey, Dance of the Gypsy Queen by Eoin Duignan. They are equally fantastic.

aderyn_du · Post by **aderyn_du** » Thu Sep 26, 2002 3:42 pm

Does anyone know if Anachie Gordon would be classified as a lament or ballad? And what exactly *does* classify a song as a lament or ballad?

Hwyl,
Andrea ~*~

Kim in Tulsa · Post by **Kim in Tulsa** » Thu Sep 26, 2002 5:10 pm

Great thread! Thanks sis!

Now if people happen to know the links for the notation of these tunes, it would be really nice if they posted them!

I know it's all about me, but it sure would save me the effort!

Kim

PhilO · Post by **PhilO** » Thu Sep 26, 2002 5:13 pm

Londenderry Air, MacPherson's Lament, Si Beg Si Mor, Down By the Sally Gardens, SOuth WInd.

LeeMarsh · Post by **LeeMarsh** » Thu Sep 26, 2002 5:47 pm

On 2002-09-26 17:42, aderyn_cyrdd wrote:
... what exactly *does* classify a song as a lament or ballad?
...

Generally:

Ballad - a song that tells a story.
Lament - a mournful piece, either meant to be played at a funeral, or to commemorate a death.

aderyn_du · Post by **aderyn_du** » Thu Sep 26, 2002 6:08 pm

Thanks Lee--I appreciate the clarification!

And, I will

Enjoy (my) Music...

Andrea

Chuck_Clark · Post by **Chuck_Clark** » Thu Sep 26, 2002 6:21 pm

One that can be powerful done right and is real whistle-friendly is Stephen Foster's "Hard Times Come Again No More" It isn't Irish and only dates to the 1850s, but after Lee's list it's positively ancient *g*.

There's also Bard of Armagh (The Streets of Laredo) and "The Lowlands of Holland" or the Scots "Flowers of the Forest".

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » Fri Sep 27, 2002 6:18 am

On 2002-09-26 19:10, Kim in Tulsa wrote:
Now if people happen to know the links for the notation of these tunes, it would be really nice if they posted them!

Kim

Amhran na Leabhair can be found at http://www.fingertrip.net/whistle/index.html. Anachuin is in Geraldine Cotter's beginner book (as is Amhran na Leabhair). I know Duignan's works aren't transcribed yet, and I have never had any luck finding Ailein Duinn.

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