Whose Pipes are These?

smithand · Post by **smithand** » Sat May 20, 2006 2:42 am

Any idea who made these pipes?

PJ · Post by PJ » Sat May 20, 2006 11:49 am

Any photos of the chanter on its own? It's hard to see anything in the two photos you've posted.

Doogie · Post by **Doogie** » Sat May 20, 2006 1:50 pm

PJ wrote:Any photos of the chanter on its own? It's hard to see anything in the two photos you've posted.

It looks like this set on ebay. Seller has (0) feedback...

http://cgi.ebay.ca/UILLEANN-PIPES-PRACT ... dZViewItem

Uilliam · Post by **Uilliam** » Sat May 20, 2006 2:23 pm

This set and the same question came up on the NPU Forum.Thomas said he thought it was a Froment set.He said judging by the windcap decoration,but wasnae sure because it was in brass and asked if he made any in brass.I havnae scooby but it does have a rush up the entire bore which is symptomatic of a Froment.Other than that it sounds OK (although I hope the player got the bus he was rushing for when playing Out on the Ocean.or was it the lifeboat??

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Slán Go Foill
Uilliam

PJ · Post by PJ » Sat May 20, 2006 2:30 pm

Do the mounts and the stopper (top of chanter top) look similar to this:

The piper is Patrick Molard. He plays a Froment set, I believe. I'm not saying that the practice set is a Froment, just that it looks similar.

Edited to add:

Does Alain Froment work in brass? I thought he worked only in stainless and very occasionally in German silver, although I do recalling seeing a half set of his in 1996 and it was in brass.

smithand · Post by **smithand** » Sat May 20, 2006 2:33 pm

Doogie wrote:
PJ wrote:Any photos of the chanter on its own? It's hard to see anything in the two photos you've posted.
It looks like this set on ebay. Seller has (0) feedback...

http://cgi.ebay.ca/UILLEANN-PIPES-PRACT ... dZViewItem

Yes it is. I think PayPal's Buyer Protection would give some safety in case it's a scam.

Andrew

Uilliam · Post by **Uilliam** » Sat May 20, 2006 2:34 pm

The top (without the stop key) certainly looks the same with I think I can make out the same amount of turnings on the brass/steel and imitation ivory.Anyways the auction ends in 14hours so it will be interesting to see who grabs it in the end

PJ ye seemed to have answered your own question viz

Does Alain Froment work in brass? I thought he worked only in stainless and very occasionally in German silver, although I do recalling seeing a half set of his in 1996 and it was in brass.

Uilliam

tompipes · Post by **tompipes** » Sat May 20, 2006 3:16 pm

Doesn't look like any Froment work to me. I've seen a lot of his early work in brass and this doesn't look like any I've seen.
Could be something by Lorcan Dunne or John Mitchell in Cork. But I don't think they make the studded bags. I am, and I could be wrong, guessing that because the set isn't very old, the bag, bellows and chanter were made by the same person.

Could it be a Williams chanter.... maybe....

my 2p.

Tommy

Uilliam · Post by **Uilliam** » Sun May 21, 2006 12:49 am

tompipes wrote:Doesn't look like any Froment work to me.
my 2p.

Tommy

Have ye looked at the close up links on the auction site?The top of the cap certainly looks like his work (minus the stop key) + the rush up the bore...or are Thomas and I looking at something totally different to ye?
Uilliam

tompipes · Post by **tompipes** » Sun May 21, 2006 2:13 am

Uilliam,
The chanter top does look a bit like Froment's stuff. He does do that false ivory top with the metal rod through the top cap.

That is the signature Froment chanter top after the Leo Rowsome chanter that Kevin Rowsome is playing at the moment.

Where as the top of the chanter may be similar to Froment/Rowsome stuff, none of the rest of the chanter looks like any of those makers work.
The turning on the rest of the chanter is way to round to be Froment or even Rowsome.

The scalloping is very good too. But the turning is not very tight, I'll still go with Williams or some other very good English maker.

The buyer won't go wrong anyway!!!!
Tommy

phcook · Post by **phcook** » Sun May 21, 2006 11:24 am

Patrick Molard usually uses a Williams set with a Froment chanter.