Copley slideless head

BillG · Post by **BillG** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:52 pm

I received my first flute from Dave Copley back in Dec. of 2002. It was keyless, Blackwood with slide. I loved it. As time went on I played a C Burns Boxwood with no slide and Jon C slidless and enjoyed the sound and feedback (backpressure?).

I contacted Dave C. a few weeks ago about making me another head for my flute but this one with no slide. Mind you, nothing wrong with the first one but, since I seldom - almost never - play with others, and since I like the sound of slide less, I made the order.

It arrived yesterday and I am a pig in mire! It looks beautiful to my eyes and blows easily. It has all of the power and character of the Copley flute and I have a long, long way to go to mature to it.

Great work, Dave.

BillG

Doc Jones · Post by **Doc Jones** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:47 pm

BillG wrote:I received my first flute from Dave Copley ...

.... I am a pig in mire! Great work, Dave.

BillG

In a pig mire. Hmmmm, now there's praise for every craftsman to aspire to.

Dave's all-wood tooters really are wonderful though..I agree.

Doc

Unseen122 · Post by **Unseen122** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:00 pm

I almost got a Copley Eb with no slide, but it happened that Doc got one the same day I told Dave to put me on the waiting list.

Jayhawk · Post by **Jayhawk** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:33 pm

I almost got a Copley Eb with no wood,

Would that be a delrin flute or is Dave now making silver flutes, too?

Eric

Unseen122 · Post by **Unseen122** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:16 pm

Must have been me thinking no slide and all wood at the same time. I will go and edit that.

Doc Jones · Post by **Doc Jones** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:22 pm

Jayhawk wrote:
I almost got a Copley Eb with no wood,
Would that be a delrin flute or is Dave now making silver flutes, too?

Eric

Yes, I'm now selling flutes with no slide and no wood. I decided that since the holes and bore are the most important parts anyway why mess with all the rest of it.

I have completely eliminated the toil of flute maintenace and storage. Take them anywhere and neglect them all you want. Since they contain no matter they cannot crack and never have tuning issues.

Woodless, silverless flutes...the ultimate existential fluting experience.

Doc

Denny · Post by **Denny** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:29 pm

...bet that sucker is light!

Doc Jones · Post by **Doc Jones** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:00 am

Denny wrote:...bet that sucker is light!

Oh yeah, really light. In fact, you'd hardly know it's there.

Doc

Chiffed · Post by **Chiffed** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:57 pm

Pratten or Rudall?

brianormond · Post by **brianormond** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:46 am

-Big holes as well as small, and the C-natural thumbhole is included! No charge for keys!

Denny · Post by **Denny** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:49 pm

Well dat's rite! This sucker is all over holes in a big way!

talasiga · Post by **talasiga** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:24 pm

doc jones et al, whats the issue here? does a slide diminish anything?

after years and years of playing non tunable simple system (mainly bansuri) the reason I got an Irish flute is for the slide. there are other reasons now that i have had one that I relaise I should have had before i got one.

so how does the slide affect the sound quality?

BillG · Post by **BillG** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:17 am

doc jones et al, whats the issue here? does a slide diminish anything?

after years and years of playing non tunable simple system (mainly bansuri) the reason I got an Irish flute is for the slide. there are other reasons now that i have had one that I relaise I should have had before i got one.

so how does the slide affect the sound quality?

Talasiga - With me its a personal thing. I don't think the slide deminishes anything but I do think the sound is softer, more subtle, it that can be a music sound. The slide seems to present a sharper, shriller, sound. Beyond that, plain wood can do just as much as any lined flute. A friend feels the sldes makes for better and crisper crans, rolls and other effects. I think that's true. Guess it all depends on how one plays and what one wants as a result.

BillG

talasiga · Post by **talasiga** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:49 am

thanx Billg - yeah more subtle - I can accept that and a stronger timber timbre. good response. I recently played an Hoza slideless E and it really honked and there was something about the lack of metal in it that i really liked. the tenon on it was enough to allow some tuning. I am on the verge of a Hoza Eb and E for concert work (non ITM).

I guess some prefer precision for jigs and things. I am one who prefers slow songs and airs for my ITM listening and musical attempts.

BillG · Post by **BillG** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:05 am

talasiga wrote:thanx Billg -

I guess some prefer precision for jigs and things. I am one who prefers slow songs and airs for my ITM listening and musical attempts.

Ah, yes. we're on that same page. My preferences as well. And that is why I find slideless so much more pleasant. I have a Healey D, keyless with half slide but is actually a silver tenon; half slideless JonC Pratton keyless, a boxwood slideless CBurns and now the Copley with both heads. All have their separate appeal and sound.

BillG

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