Gracings for UP, where?!?

Filzmaul · Post by **Filzmaul** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 6:08 pm

Hi!
Has anybody an idea where I can find something about gracings for the UP in the net? Or is there any video (DVD

) around?!?

Thankx

djm · Post by **djm** » Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:50 pm

How much money do you want to spend?

Lots of sources: Heather Clarke's book on UPs, Pat Mitchell's Dance Music of Willie Clancy book, 3 videos from NPU, Mad4Trad CDROM for UPs, etc. etc.

Do you play, plan to play, just idly curious?

djm

Filzmaul · Post by **Filzmaul** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:43 am

Well, I am playing (since 2 years) pipesand I have now since a few weeks a new developed one, called: "pip le séideath" which is a pipe with mixed fingering, open and half open in the 2nd octace. The sound is astonishing same like a Uillean from the chanter. Bore and reed is similar from a Uilleann. The 2 drones are fatter, more warm. Pitch is in D.
Now, I have to find gracings on my own and see what I can adapt from pipe models, that are for longer time developed.
Weher can I find the Mad4Trad e. g. ?

marcpipes · Post by **marcpipes** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 3:56 am

Interesting. Does "pip le seideath" translate to fairy pipes, as in sidhe? It seems you've beaten me to the punch as I've been trying to develope something similar, even with a similar name.
Marc

djm · Post by **djm** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 8:34 am

Filzmaul, there are lots of sources on the web. Where you are located will determine shipping costs. Here's just a few places to start with:
NPU: http://www.pipers.ie/en/default.lasso
Ossian in Cork or USA: http://www.ossianusa.com/
Andy's Front Hall: http://www.ossianusa.com/

djm

Filzmaul · Post by **Filzmaul** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:25 am

Thanks!
I´m located in good ol´ Germany

. Will see, what is useful for me....

Don´t be sad , marcpipes, it might make you happy to hear that my pipe is mouth blown, sinc I can´t play with a bellows. I have tried to play with a bellows a "Polish Bock", which make me CRAZY at this time....
With my "feltmouth" I have the pipe more under control...

Cheerz

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 9:54 am

Filzmaul = Felt muzzle

Are you really mouth blowing Uilleann reeds??

Calum · Post by **Calum** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 10:22 am

Isn't there a turkish/balkan/bulgarian/vaguely eastern bagpipe which has a mouthblown reed with a second octave? I'm sure I've heard a recording of it on Pipeline or suchlike.

Cheers,
Calum

marcpipes · Post by **marcpipes** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:39 pm

I think it's one of the Bulgarian pipes

anima · Post by **anima** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 2:38 pm

got any pictures Filz?

Filzmaul · Post by **Filzmaul** » Sat Feb 14, 2004 3:31 pm

Yes, I have just shooten some pics, they´re still in my camera but I will sug them in the next minutes. I can mail those, who like to see them should post his email.
I have not heard about that capability of the bulgarian pipes, the only ones I saw live were somehow very ancient, with a cows (or other animals) bladder as bag. They had a clarinette type reed, and a "flew-hole" on the bottom of the chanter for to make these wierd "blips" as ghost note. So, I guess, 10 notes, not more, with different tuning. Not bad at all, but: each pipe is designed for a specific type of music, so the bulgarian is. Bavarian music might also be strange on a uilleann

Cheers

anima · Post by **anima** » Mon Feb 16, 2004 6:30 pm

I have been talking to Edgar (filzmaul) more off-line about his pipes and he has forwarded on to me more information and pix,
they were made by Jens Güntzel, a pipemaker from eastern Germany, and are a new design
http://www.dudelsackbau.com/frameset.htm

here are some pix and a sound file

http://www.animavitae.com/uilleann/pipe3.mp3

Jeff

John Mulhern · Post by **John Mulhern** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 10:38 am

VERY interesting website! Am I interpreting that wrong, or does that
small spur gear control an adjustable finger on the drone reed tongue?

Filzmaul · Post by **Filzmaul** » Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:48 am

Yes it is! Bingo!