Fingering question

[ImNotIrish]

Hi all...
I hope this hasn't been covered in depth before... but I am curious about fingering an F nat on a key less chanter. Does one just play and E fingering and half hole? Or is there a cross-fingering that is used? I am working on the tune: Maids of Mitchellstown. Thanks,
Arbo

[fancypiper]

I finger E as if I am playing an on the knee E but raise the chanter off the knee and use a bit more bag pressure than usual.

I haven't had any luck with half holing.

I haven't played any fast stuff using the off the knee F nat, I use it in slow airs.

[misterpatrick]

I half-hole. I play F nat all the time and I have a key but when playing fast or I want to slide to the note I'll half-hole.

[pancelticpiper]

In the second octave, lifting the chanter off the knee raises the pitch of E to nearly F, and I crack my finger open a hair to raise the note the rest of the way.

Strange about the acoustics of the D uilleann chanter, that in the second octave, lifting the chanter off the leg raises E to around F, and lowers F# to around F.

Most of the time I use the key for F, in both octaves.

[mke_mick]

On my Patrick Sky D chanter, I get a nice F-natural without lifting off the knee simply by fingering F# but lifting the other fingers on my right hand as well (i.e., everything except my RH index finger).

Cheers,

Mick