Check out old Taylor reeds!!

tok · Post by **tok** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 7:32 am

Hello folks! Iv'e managed to hang up my shingle at ; http://www.erinscall.com .

anima · Post by **anima** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 9:56 am

absolutely beautiful website.

Jeff

Dionys · Post by **Dionys** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 10:00 am

How about some measurements on those taylor reeds/staples, or some 100% B&W scans?

Dionys

tok · Post by **tok** » Tue Jun 18, 2002 10:51 am

Anima,Thanks!! Also, Dionis, here is a guestimate of some specs on the whole or complete taylor chanter reed.
Taylor;
staple lenght, .51 mm.
diameter at bottom, .4 mm.
eye width, .5 mm.
eye height, .2 mm.
blade width, .10 mm.
bridle width, .4 mm.
blade lenght (total exposed area above winding), .25 mm. (roughly).
scrape, .21 mm.
reed lips seem to me to be best at one half a mm. Or a little less.
overall length, .71 mm.
I hope this is helpfull.
T.K.

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Cayden · Post by **Cayden** » Wed Jun 19, 2002 4:23 am

One of the most interesting features of Taylor [style] reeds, and little has been published on that aspect of them, is the fact they used a staple with an inverse taper i.e. it widened considerably towards the reed head quite opposed to the Rowsome school of reedmaking.

Only yesterday I was looking at a staple that belonged to the Patsy Touhey chanter, and had played in it for over sixty year and originated either with the Taylors, Touhey himself, or [most likely] Mike Carney. This staple was extremely well made and regular formed and had a strong taper towards the head. Stronger I would imagine than the one in the pic on Tom Kennedy's website.

As I said some articles have been written aboutthis aspect of the Taylor's reedmaking but there's plenty of room for research there.

I copy below measurements given by Bill Ochs for a reed that was in his Taylor chanter.

Length: 1.75”
Staple dimensions:
Inside Diameter: .128” - .141” (not perfectly round at bottom)
Outside Diameter: .180”
Thickness of brass: .020”
Length of eye (inside): .205”
Width of eye on centerline (inside): .073”
Length of taper: .970”

Blade dimensions:
Width: .415”
Length: 1.945”
Length of staple bed: .975”

A bit of nit picking on the website, 'Seamus McMan' for Wexford is Seamus McMahon or his preferred Irish spelling MacMahuna, Martin Rochford's townland was Ballinahinch but the village was Bodyke.

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tok · Post by **tok** » Wed Jun 19, 2002 8:17 am

Thanks,peter.

Big Mick · Post by **Big Mick** » Wed Jul 03, 2002 10:21 am

Wonderful site, I have added it to my bookmarks. Love the reed pix!

Paul · Post by **Paul** » Thu Jul 11, 2002 4:27 pm

Great Site!

(edited to correct spelling of sight to site. I make that mistake all the time)

Jim McGuire · Post by **Jim McGuire** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 7:47 pm

Billy Taylor of Louth and Philadelphia, Patsy Brown of Kerry and Boston, Patrick Hennelly of Mayo and Chicago - all used the inverted staple in their chanter reeds.

I believe that Bill's pipes are Patsy Brown and would also have the inverted staple.

Kevin L. Rietmann · Post by **Kevin L. Rietmann** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 8:57 pm

Bill who, Jim? Bill Ochs, Billy McCormick? I thought those were both confirmed Taylor, though.

snoogie · Post by **snoogie** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 4:07 am

Great looking, well organized site. Best of luck with it.

I will send you a PM with a recommendation for one minor enhancement.

Regards,
Gary

tok · Post by **tok** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 3:53 pm

thanks for the positive feedback on my site . It took me a few days to just get a good paragraph that would describe the uilleann pipes in a way that would be informative to folks who have never seen , or heard them + that is as historically acurate as I could sumise .

I have moved ,, I now live in augusta , maine .

. It is nice to be back on line .
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Lorenzo · Post by **Lorenzo** » Sun Sep 07, 2003 8:42 pm

Hey Tom...I wondered what happened to you. Nice to have you back around.

Still playing the Roberts set?

mconners · Post by **mconners** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 7:52 pm

Nice site, good reed photos.

Folks - take a look at the following reed image:

It's the top reed that I am bringing to your attention. Do you notice the angle of the lips/tip? It's not straight across and appears to be at an angle that is not explained by the positioning of the reed.

The reed in question is a chanter reed, and it is Leo Rowsome's from his famous set. Has anyone had any experience with reeds that have this type of angle at the lips?

Here's the full url: http://www.esatclear.ie/~rowsome/leo.htm

Jim McGuire · Post by **Jim McGuire** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 9:56 pm

McCormick's is a Taylor.

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