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One guy wrote me about a flute he'd bought by chance in an antique shop in Prague (Czech Republic) this summer.
Has anyone ever seen a logo like that? To me it looks quite awkward and I am inclined to think that it is a Pakistani or Indian hack. Taking also into account he payed 140 Euro for it.
However 140E is too much for a Pak flute and, he told me the flute seemed quite old and cork on one tenon had been damaged. He also sent me a vid with him playing this flute and though he is no good flute player the flute seemed to me to be in tune. Not much inforation, I've asked him more on the internet but no answer yet.

Have anyone seen a flute with a logo like that? What can it be?


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Interesting flute...I've never seen a maker's mark like that, and it's really pretty detailed for a Pakistan made flute. However, it can't be too old being a keyless flute - that means it's likely from the 1980s or later.

Hopefully someone on the board will know who marks their flutes that way.

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Darn, for some reason I can't see any photos or links.
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Kevin...that's weird...they show up perfectly in the post for me. The image is of a bird...pretty big engraving and seems unlikely for a Pakistan made flute to have such an intricate engraving as their mark.

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Jayhawk wrote:Kevin...that's weird...they show up perfectly in the post for me. The image is of a bird...pretty big engraving and seems unlikely for a Pakistan made flute to have such an intricate engraving as their mark.

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Yes, looks engraved, not stamped. Ya know, that bird looks suspiciously like a lark. . .could our man Mickie Z. be involved?

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It is Pakistani or Indian. I recently picked up a 2nd hand outfit of flute, decent hard case and decent nylon carry case with this brand/logo for not very much. I bought them for the cases, which have gone to house a rather different class flute! However, the flute itself, whilst crudely finished (or simply not finished! - particularly in the embouchure and tone-hole chimneys and bore) is a significant improvement on anything we've seen of this sort in the past. As in, it plays decently in tune with a not bad tone. When I find some time to tidy it up, I think it will be more than OK. This is not the first example of apparently P/I flutes I have handled recently which suggest to me that some of those makers are finally getting their act together and some of our lower price range Western makers had better look to their laurels. I've been intending to make a post about these observations to the sticky thread and will do so in due course. However, there's still plenty of the established type of FLO junk out there, so caveat emptor and try before you buy! I would not yet recommend anyone to buy the OP example, but we can no longer, IMO, make the old blanket assumptions........
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How interesting Jem! However, I'm not surprised...I figured Indian and Pakistani makers would improve their product if they really were intent on selling them long term. I also knew certain brands of these flutes had some innate promise...otherwise, I can't imagine Rod Cameron taking the time to clean up and sell them like he did some years back.

What company is making these with that bird engraving? I'd like a decent case that's not a pistol case and not expensive. :P

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Just checked the photos I took of the case outfit. (Can't post them at present) - the brand is "Quality 1 Trader Ltd." or "Q1T" as seen in the lark-in-a-triskele logo. The hard case is nothing fantastic cosmetically, fairly typical of the cases many flutes of this general type are being sold in currently.It is reasonably tidily made, fairly solid and generally serviceable.
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Ok, found a way to post case photos. Haven't got any of the associated flute, but will add when can

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jemtheflute wrote:Just checked the photos I took of the case outfit. (Can't post them at present) - the brand is "Quality 1 Trader Ltd." or "Q1T" as seen in the lark-in-a-triskele logo. The hard case is nothing fantastic cosmetically, fairly typical of the cases many flutes of this general type are being sold in currently.It is reasonably tidily made, fairly solid and generally serviceable.
How are the inside parts of the case? I ask because the one which came round on tour last year (?) had a case which was positively dangerous.
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Fine, Ben. See edited in second picture. Nothing at all like the one you mean.
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...... And here you have them, lock, stock and barrel: http://www.quality1trader.co.uk.

For the OP's info, I should say the example they asked about is of very recent vintage indeed, whatever its interim provenance.
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jemtheflute wrote:...... And here you have them, lock, stock and barrel: http://www.quality1trader.co.uk.

For the OP's info, I should say the example they asked about is of very recent vintage indeed, whatever uts interum provenance.
Oops! :o Yoir us are gettung middled ip wuth yoir is. :lol:

Meanwhile, yes, thanks. I can see that these cases are a lot better than that other one. Not exactly sophisticated, but it looks OK.
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Fat finger typos on phone....... corrected while you were posting, Ben.
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