Tunes in 7/8, 5/4 (or similar off-beat)

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Tunes in 7/8, 5/4 (or similar off-beat)

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Hi guys,

Do you have any suggestions for 7/8, 5/4 beat tunes (or similar off-beat) - that you can play on a keyless (preferably without being Brian Finnegan :-))

I've found Solas - Boy/Girl Tune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsCNxHp7Cjw

You need some pretty magical crossfingering on that for the last part :D - but what a great tune!


Another on my Youtube favorites list:

Lau - Hinba (live in 2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xN1Zb0n8_k

Do you know of any cool ones? Video or sound would be highly appreciated!

Have a nice weekend, y'all :-)


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Re: Tunes in 7/8 (or similar off-beat)

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listen tune thunderhead on lunasa first album..they played it as 7/8, although orginal is 6/8.
here are dots for 7/8:
X:1
T:Thunderhead
R:"Balkan"
M:7/8
L:1/8
K:BPhr
~B3 fBBf|eBB dBBA|~B3 fggf|edB AGGc|
~B3 fBBf|eBB dBef|gfe fddB|1ADF ABBc:|2ADF ABc2||
|:dGG AGGE|DEG EF~F2|EFF EF~F2|GFE EF~F2|
dGG AGGE|DEG EF~F2|1BdB ceeg|f/2g/2af g3e:|2M:6/8 Bde fgf|M:7/8 edB AGGc||
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also on planxty cds are some off beat tunes (smeseno horo for instance......), also on some andy irvine solo albums or albums with his group mozaik ...........
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p.s see also michel mcgoldrick tune, waterman ...http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/3367 also in 7/8.
i think that he composed also some more tunes in 7/8, but not 100 % shure .....
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McGoldrick's - Waterman's, Through the roof, Pontivy - the first two parts well fit for flute, the third being with Bb & Fnat,

Lunasa's Road to Barga set (Se) - 2nd tune, Unapproved road (La Nua)

Colin Farrell's Soho South\Moolah Rooge Set - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqG9ZxVX94o

funny tune My Love is in Bulgaria - actually the reel My Love is in America converted into 7/8 - http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/4719
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tunes in 7/8 and 5/4 are not off-beat - they are just in different beat :)

Get interested in Breton, Balkan and Greek dances - these should give you plenty of material to work on - check out for example the Zembekiko [Zeimpekiko] in 9/8 signature.
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The Twisted Bridge - great Scottish tune in 5/4.
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emmdee wrote:The Twisted Bridge - great Scottish tune in 5/4.
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At thesession.org The Twisted Bridge is noted as in 3/2.
It is a piping tune from the Hebrides.
Please read the comments there.
http://www.thesession.org/tunes/display/5151
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Marga's Moment is a neat tune in 7/8
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All the above certainly. Brian Finnegan has of course written a lot of 7/8 tunes that sit well on flute and whistle. Stuff from Mike McGoldrick too, of course. I like to mess around sometimes in playing trad tunes in weird rhythms just for fun too...

I'm currently attempting to play Aidan O'Rourke's "Hinba", that's in a nice mixture of 7/8, 9/8, and 6/8 I think... It's not totally the rhythm changes that's throwing me off anymore, but just getting all the right notes there up to speed. It's an uber tricky tune, but oh so cool!
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I'm nosey and if no one else is going to ask, I will. Why are you looking for songs with an uncommon beat?
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mutepointe wrote:I'm nosey and if no one else is going to ask, I will. Why are you looking for songs with an uncommon beat?
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Cool, Hans. I'm a musician, not a mathematician :)

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It just struck me as odd to have a Scottish tune in 5/4 :)

Time will tell if those new 7/8 tunes introduced will be absorbed into ITM :D
(would be nice to dance this!)

For some traditional Balkan 7/8 tunes search for "ruchenitsa" or "racenitsa" or "ръченица" (the name for the dance, like "jig")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC_-jLPJcUA :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dBxiV7gaZw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DO5WZuxqeA
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My band does Thunderhead and Road to Barga both ripped off from Lunasa. A previous poster mentions Thunderhead as being Balkin in the ABC and originally in 6/8, but that is incorrect. It was written by Grey Larson who, the story goes, wrote it on a plane looking out the window at the clouds. While Grey wrote the original in 7/8 he also wrote a 6/8 version which he recorded with Malcolm Dalglish. Lunasa recorded the original 7/8 version.

Road to Barga (http://youtu.be/7MmGPlte53w) was written by Cillian Vallely, Lunasa's piper in around 98 or 99. At the time he said he was playing some with the Klezmatics and was inspired to try writing something in 7/8. He says, "The drive from Lucca to Barga in Tuscany is not for the faint-hearted..." I would add that neither is this tune. If anybody wants the dots I can email you a pdf
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