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Boxwood Rudall & Rose on auction June 17

http://www.gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/Catal ... 0137-0.jpg

I will not be bidding against you.

That's a truly beautiful Flute Kev .... I wonder how much it will go for ? Any guesses ?

wow !! .....so beautiful

whowheeeeee!!

The estimate is 2500 to 3500 (pounds, I assume)

Absolutely gorgeous. I really hope it goes for more than that.

Looks like someone has had a go at renovating the flute. Seems to have a glossy finish (could be the photo), and the rings are they original? Is the head joint original? It looks like a patent head, but there seems to be a missing ring between the patent head and the wood of the headjoint? The barrel doesn't seem to be stamped, but maybe the stamp is on the other side? Interesting that all the keys seem to have pewter plugs

Hmmm ... Can't tell from the photo, but it doesn't look like a patent head to me. Only the footjoint keys seem to be pewter plugs - the rest look like pads to me.

Actually, they are odd keys, aren't they? Maybe they are pewters ... but where are the receiving plates then?

The photo isn't that sharp or clear, but the head joint doesn't look to be original. It has a different grain compared with the rest of the flute, but prehaps that's normal. I wonder why they don't show the stamp on the barrel
1 Tavistock St would date the flute 1838-1847 which prehaps explains the "unusual" pewter type keys.

No serial number either which, I believe, is unusual, right for a boxwood and silver Rudall Rose? Perhaps the barrel is a replacement, but I thought the number would appear on the left-hand section.

benhall.1 wrote:... but where are the receiving plates then

inside the wood, small ones.


Looks to be a custom model.
the head seems original to me.
nice engraved work on the crown and bottom ... as far as I can see from this picture.
I don't really like the rings style.

Imho I won't consider this one as a session flute, but more as collector's item.
and also no serial no.
I would expect no more than £2000...

Boxwood, pewter plugs on all the keys and fancy old style on the C#/C keywork...
remainds me of richard potter flutes: maybe a special order for an old flute player??

That address on the foot looks more like 7 Tavistock not 1. Which would make this a very early Rudall Rose. And that would tend to fit more with the pewter plug keys, the early style C/C# touches (no claw as seen on the later silver keys). And then there's the length of the foot which scaling up the photo seems to be 150mm or even more, again fitting in with an early one. See Terry's pages here http://www.mcgee-flutes.com/Rudall_Development.htm
and here http://www.mcgee-flutes.com/conclusions.html
And the rings are just like my Monzani in keeping with Rose's pre Rudall flute?????
Plus there's more...

Of course if we could properly read the address we'd know.
Cheers
Graeme

And here's the text I just found on the auction site.

Early 19th century boxwood and silver mounted flute by and stamped Rudall & Rose 7 Tavistock Street, Covent Garden, London, with silver keys on wooden blocks, case Estimate: 2500-3500 [pounds]

Cheers
Graeme