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scottish TM

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:01 am
by LorenzoFlute
I discovered that I don't know anything about STM, and since a few times I heard some tunes that I liked a lot and later found out that were scottish, I'd like to know more about it.
I'm not much interested in finding the differences from ITM, but if someone coul indicate me some groups or flute players (i just know calum stewart) it would be very appreciated. Also, a source of tune would be handy.
Thanks a lot,
Lorenzo :)

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:06 am
by flutey1
Kenny will be the best one to answer once he sees this (which I'm sure will be before too long). I'll do my best to start with. I'm actually currently in Scotland working on a project that sometime in the next 2 months will produce a website that hopefully answers all your questions.

there aren't a whole lot of flute players in Scottish music (at least not ones that have recorded much solo stuff). not that these have flute, but groups you'll want to check out are: Silly Wizard, Old Blind Dogs, Tannahill Weavers, Session A9, Dochas, Deaf Shepherd, Lau, Claire Mann & Aaron Jones (Claire plays flute and fiddle, some Irish and some Scottish), The Battlefield Band... can't think of any others off the top of my head, but lots of the people in those bands have also recorded solo, so that should be plenty to start with.


various Scottish music related sources online:

The Fiddle Tradition of North-East Scotland (University of Edinburgh): http://www.celtscot.ed.ac.uk/fiddle/index.htm

North East Folklore Archive (NEFA): http://www.nefa.net/index.htm

James Scott Skinner (University of Aberdeen): http://www.abdn.ac.uk/scottskinner/

Scots Music Group (SMG): http://www.scotsmusic.org/info/about/

Nigel Gatherer’s Traditional Music Pages: http://www.nigelgatherer.com/

Traditional Music and Song Association of Scotland (TMSA): http://www.tmsa.org.uk/index.asp

Scottish Culture and Traditions (SCaT Aberdeen): http://www.scottishculture.org/

The Elphinstone Institute, University of Aberdeen: http://www.abdn.ac.uk/elphinstone/


hope that helps :)

cheers,
Sara

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:20 am
by rh
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:05 am
by jmccain
Among many others, here is a good site:

http://softflute.co.uk/music/abc/index.htm

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:45 pm
by kkrell
Jack Campin's Old Scottish Flute Music Page:
http://www.campin.me.uk/Flute/

and I suppose Scotland-resident flute player Nuala Kennedy might be a good resource as well.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =116970367


Some other flute players:

Kenny Hadden
Niall Kenny
Iain MacDonald
Phil Smillie (Tannahill Weavers)

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Kevin Krell

previous discussions...

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:31 am
by kenny

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:23 am
by LorenzoFlute
eheh i knew someone would have posted the link to that thread. i wrote that on purpose: "I'm not much interested in finding the differences from ITM" :wink:

thanks to Sara and all the others for answering, i really appreciate your help :)

Have a good day,
Lorenzo

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:36 am
by mcdafydd
And the recently mentioned Calum Stewart.

Speaking of Jack Campin, if anyone manages to get a copy of his "Old Scottish Flute Music" please PM me. I've been trying for ages.. well, not recently though.

The Irish vs. Scottish thread does include links to a lot of good sources of information about Scottish music. Also, I'd recommend getting a copy of the Caledonian Pocket Companion 12-book CD-ROM set. It's available on Ebay. If you can't find it, let me know.

You can also read the program notes from one of Chris Norman's concerts where he lists the sources for all the tunes on the Caledonian Flute album (also in the liner notes):

http://www.rbsp.org/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=60

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:46 pm
by flutey1
There's a collection of session tunes available for free online. They're arranged for fiddle, but most can be adapted for flute and there's also a list of tunes at the beginning. It's called "Smashing Scottish Session Tunes", arranged by Barbara McOwen (I believe for the Boston Harbor Scottish Fiddle School), and available as a pdf here: http://www.mcowen.net/fiddlezone/photos/SSSTunes.pdf

There's also a book published by Mel Bay called Antiquities of Scottish Music and arranged for flute or whistle, but I don't think the tunes it includes are especially session tunes. It's here: http://www.melbay.com/product.asp?ProductID=98267BCD

cheers,
Sara

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:05 am
by hans
Some tune books equally good for fluters and whistlers as for fiddlers:

I like the following tune book very much. It is widely used in Scotland.
Ho-ro-gheallaigh
Session Tunes for Scottish Fiddlers
compiled by Christine Martin and Anne Hughes

See for instance here http://www.scotlandsmusic.com/session.htm

It contains only dance tunes (no airs).

This is published by Taigh na Teud (Harpstring House), which have published also an excellent series (4 I think) of tune books called
Ceol na Fidhle
Highland Tunes for the Fiddle

See for instance here: http://www.scotlandsmusic.com/highland.htm

A lovely mix of Highland tunes, much from pipers origin, with a good proportion of slow airs as well.

and a series of books with well-known tunes aimed at children:
First Ceilidh Collection
Second Ceilidh Collection

etc.

See for instance here: http://www.scotlandsmusic.com/ceilidh.htm

I just noticed that there are also some old collections available on that website: http://www.scotlandsmusic.com/collections.htm

You can also download some old collections set as abc music files from my website
http://www.softflute.co.uk/music/abc/index.htm
(the link was given earlier, but here are some details).

The Athole ABC Collection
Over 800 Scottish Reels and Strathspeys
from the Athole Collection by James Stewart Robertson, 1884

The Simon Fraser ABC Collection
170+ Airs and Melodies from the Highlands and Islands of Scotland
from the Collection of Captain Simon Fraser, 1816

The MacDonald - Skye ABC Collection
166 mostly Reels and Strathspeys
from the Skye Collection by Keith N. MacDonald, 1887

I hope to add another collection for download at some time soon, but there are still some errors in the notation, ABCMUS tells me, which I would like to correct first. PM me if you are interested anyway, and I can send the following by email:
The James Oswald ABC Collection #1
"A Curious Collection of Scots Tunes" from 1740.

James Oswald published also "The Caledonian Pocket Companion", with much overlap of tunes published in "A Curious Collection of Scots Tunes".

~Hans