Bach orchestral suite n°3

[phcook]

I don't know if there is any interest for that such of thing, but here is the air, second part of the 3rd orchestral suite, that sounds to me nicely when played on wooden flute, and which is interesting also for key practising:

Original, in D:

X:1
T:Suite pour orchestre n°3 - Air
C:Jean-Sébastien Bach
M:4/4
R:
L:1/16
K: D
f16|-f2bg {f}edcdc4{B}A4|a8-af(=cB) (e^d)(ag)|g8-ge(BA) (dc)(gf)|
f6 (^ga) d2d/e/(f f)e(ed)|1 cBB/c/(d d2)cB A8:|2 cBB/c/(d d2)cB A8|:(c4 c)d/c/B/c/A a6 =c2|
B2(b2 b)agf (g4g/)(f/e/d/)^cB|^AB(c2 c)d(e2 e)f(g2 g2)f2|edcB (cd/e/)d2 B8|(d4 d)fed (b4 b2)a^g|
{f}eaA2 (B3c/d/) c3B A4|d6 (fe) e6 (gf)|f6 (ag) g8|
(A4 A)ceg ge(f2 f2f)g/a/|(d4 d)fa=c' b6 d2|^ce g4 B2 A2ef/(g/ g)f2e|d/c/B2c (d2!trill!c)d d8:||

Transposition in G
X:1
T:Suite pour orchestre n°3 - Air
C:Jean-Sébastien Bach
M:4/4
R:
L:1/16
K:G %transposed from D
B16|-B2ec {B}AGFGF4{E}D4|d8-dB(FE) (A^G)(dc)|c8-cA(ED) (GF)(cB)|
B6 (^cd) G2G/A/(B B)A(AG)|1 FEE/F/(G G2)FE D8:|2 FEE/F/(G G2)FE D8|:(F4 F)G/F/E/F/D d6 F2|
E2(e2 e)dcB (c4c/)(B/A/G/)FE|^DE(F2 F)G(A2 A)B(c2 c2)B2|AGFE (FG/A/)G2 E8|(G4 G)BAG (e4 e2)d^c|
{B}AdD2 (E3F/G/) F3E D4|G6 (BA) A6 (cB)|B6 (dc) c8|
(D4 D)FAc cA(B2 B2B)c/d/|(G4 G)Bdf e6 G2|FA c4 E2 D2AB/(c/ c)B2A|G/F/E2F (G2!trill!F)G G8:||

Very nice score sheet with abcedit.

Best wishes and happy new year everybody

[Cathy Wilde]

Thank you for the transcription! I'll give it a go. In an attempt to force improvement in my wooden-flute accidentals I played bits of the first movement of Bach's Suite in B Minor for a while, but my college technique is so far in the past and tunes were so much more fun (And less painful!). This looks more do-able.

[Chiffed]

That G transposition sounds lovely! Thanks. I tossed it in the Tune-O-Tron and printed the PDF. Sounds good on a mezzo-A whistle, too.

[Aanvil]

That G transposition sounds lovely! Thanks. I tossed it in the Tune-O-Tron and printed the PDF. Sounds good on a mezzo-A whistle, too.

me too... got em both now PDF and printed.

Its not ITM soz I think I can legally have printed sheet music right?




Thanx Phcook!

[Jim Troy]

thanks for that , Cookie , and yes , if you have any more , i would welcome them .
we need a little culture here

the D transcription has an F# , 3rd bar from the end . i think it should be F nat.
just being picky .

bring on the culture , baby !

[Chiffed]

Errata on the G version (I think...):

m.3 F should be nat
m.8 last F should be nat
m. 16 last C might be sharp
m.17 F should be nat

For the D version

m. 16 last G should be sharp

Hope I'm right - just going by ear.

[Jim Troy]

yes , that could be it . but , phcook , give us some more .

i can see it now , a bunch of guys and gals , in the back room at Glyndbourne , after Kiri does Schubert , ( albeit vocally) ripping into a few fugues .

and while i'm here , does anyone know if that book of pipe friendly tunes , by the , possibly , Chicago Pipers Club , is available as an abc collection ?
loaded with dodgy bits , but a good guide to flutable stuff

(there's an ADD post ,if ever there was one )

[phcook]

Hi

D transcription:

the F in m. 3 before end is already Fnat (see the sign = before F), check your abc software, which perhaps doesn't accept that way, there is unfortunately no standard abc notation;

Gsharp m.16: can't see it, it might be your software, please control;

G transcription

m.3 Fnat is Fnat, see the '=' before F
m.8: it's Fsharp
m.16 and 17: can't see.

I use abcEdit, that accepts some abcPlus notation, that can explain the differences.

If you're using windows, give abcEdit a try, it's in English and is very useful to control the printing with layout commands that are beyond abc standard notation.

If somebody is interested, I can send you the score with the four voices, so you may verify and modify some patterns that aren't accepted by your software.

perhaps the more skilled players could record and let the others hear how it can sound?

Best wishes to all.

Philip

[Chiffed]

Like I said, I just use the Tune-O-Tron at Concertina.net. Haven't found any need to go further with .abc format. No offence.

[phcook]

Don't worry Chiffed

Here is a site (French only for score downloading, but easy to use)

http://partitions.metronimo.com/

Best wishes

[Chiffed]

Thanks! I only use Tune-o-tron because 473 people on the board recomended it. Time for a change.

[chas]

Here's a Telemann sonata for alto recorder that I've transposed down to D. The original goes up to the high G, this up to the somewhat more manageable E. I prefer the sound in F, possibly just because that's how I started playing it.

X:1
T:Sonata in F Magg
T:First movement
M:C
L:1/8
C:Telemann
V:Vivace
K:F
P:Vivace
c'ffd' c'2b/a/b/c'/|a2g/f/g/a/ fc fa/g/|
f2 c'/b/a/g/ fc fa/g/| fg/a/ ba ag z2| g(f/e/) a2 (g/f/)(e/f/) de|
f(e/d/) g2 (f/e/)(d/e/) cd|ed/c/ fe/d/ gf/e/ ag/f/| =b/g/g/g/ c'/g/g/g/ d'/g/g/g/ e'/g/g/g/|
=b/g/g/g/ c'/g/g/g/ d'g f'z|e'd'/c'/ d'c'/=b/ c'b/a/ gf | e/f/g/a/ d/e/f/g/ c/d/e/f/ d/e/f/g/|
e/f/g/a/ d/e/f/g/ cd/e/ f/g/a/=b/|c'gc'g c'=b/a/ gf|e2d2c2z2:|
geeg ^c2 b2| ag/f/ gf/e/ fd z2| c'aac' ^f2 _e'2|
d'c'/b/ c'b/a/ bg za |b/(g/^f/g/) d/(g/f/g/) bg z a| b/(g/^f/g/) d/(g/f/g/) d'gg'g|
ba/g/ ag/^f/ g=f/_e/ dc | BgA^f G2 z2| g2 f/e/f/g/ e/c/d/e/ f/g/a/b/|
c'2 b/a/b/c'/ a/f/e/f/ g/a/b/c'/ |d'2 c'/b/c'/d'/ b2 a/g/a/b/ | g/f/g/a/ f/e/f/g/ e/c/c/c/ f/c/c/c/|
g/c/c/c/ a/c/c/c/ e/c/c/c/ f/c/c/c/ | gc bz ag/f/ gf/e/ | fc fa/g/ f2 c'/b/a/g/|
fc fa/g/ fg/a/ b/c'/d'/e'/ | f'c'f'c' f'e'/d'/ c'b| a2 g2 f2:|

X:2
T:Sonata in F Magg
T:second movement
M:3/4
L:1/4
C:Telemann
V:Largo
K:F
P:Largo
a {b}a3/g/ | f/e/d z | b g e | ^c2 z | d {d}e3/f/ | e3/g/ f/e/ |
f/g/(g3/a/) | a2z :||: (a/b//c'//) (^f3/g//a//)| d3/_e'/d' | c'{b}a3/d'/|
b3/a/g|{f}e/f//g// (^c3/d//e//)| A3/e/(f|f/)g/ (e3/d/) | d2z:|

X:3
T:Sonata in F Magg
T:Third movement
M:6/8
L:1/8
C:Telemann
V:Allegro
K:F
P:Largo
c'| (ag)f d'2f | (ed)c g2B | Acf egc'|
afc F2g|(_ag)a g^fg |^f2d a2d |(ba)b (a^g)a|
^g2e =b2e |(c'=b)c' (_ba)b | (a=b)c' g2c' | (fa)c' e2c'|
(df)a (ag)f|(fe)d (dc)=B|=B3f3|edc G2 =b| c'ge ceg|
e'ge ceg |g'ge ceg| c'=bc' g2b|c'3 zz:|
g|(ed)c c'2a| (^fe)d d'2g| _e'c'a ^fad'|
bgd G2a | b2d ^c2b|{b}(a3 (a)g)a|b2d ^c2a|
{a}(g3 (g)^f)g| bag gfe| ^c'2a e'2g|fed A2^c|
d3 z2a|d'2d (c'=b)c'|(=bc')d' (fa)b| c'2c (ba)b|
(ab)c' (fg)a| (ba)g a3|(gf)e f3| (=Bd)f (Gg)f|
(ed)c b3|(ag)f c2e|fcA FAc| acA FAc|
c'ec FAc | f'2f c2e | f3zz:|

[treeshark]

Ah the Telemann that takes me back, I can remember this was the first serious bit of recorder music I learnt. A well known recorder player used to refer to it as the recorder players "Stairway to Heaven" I should try it on the flute though I find music I know well on the recorder strangely awkward on the flute. I also tend to read up recorder stuff as if I was playing on an alto recorder other wise things get a bit stratospheric.

[chas]

Ah the Telemann that takes me back, I can remember this was the first serious bit of recorder music I learnt. A well known recorder player used to refer to it as the recorder players "Stairway to Heaven" I should try it on the flute though I find music I know well on the recorder strangely awkward on the flute. I also tend to read up recorder stuff as if I was playing on an alto recorder other wise things get a bit stratospheric.

It's really a great piece of music. I've been playing it as written -- in F, going all the way up to the high G. It's challenging, but I'm definitely developing my chops. I just finished keying it into abc, so just transposed it. I'll try it in D, but I think that I've gotten so used to it in F that it just won't sound the same. Maybe if I play it with an A440 center joint it will be so alien I won't recognize it.

[Nelson]

Does that mean you put those ABCs into notes? If so, would you send me the Bach?

Nelson