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this video clip shows a very talented player .... with a finger posture that simply should not produce the quality of ornaments he is getting......going to show that doesn't matter how you hold the flute, only the results!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUhw ... ISXPg-Xzx4
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I didn't notice anything too unusual. He's got somewhat longer fingers than normal, but that's about it.
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Ah. Tommi. I used to count him as a good friend, but he sees to have ditched me for reasons that I don't understand. :-? :(
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....going to show that doesn't matter how you hold the flute, only the results!
I find the apparently involuntary exaggerated movements of the player's left pinky to be quite fascinating ... but the music is very pleasant to listen to ... whatever it takes that doesn't hurt :)
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Of course, Tommi has always maintained that you can only get ornaments like his by holding the flute that way.
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RudallRose wrote:with a finger posture that simply should not produce the quality of ornaments he is getting
Right. Other than the dancing pinkie/pinky finger I don't see anything unusual. Am I missing something?

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Looks fairly normal to me...pinkies are like singer's faces...they're always doing something weird the performer is not aware of.

Lovely playing, and I'd forgotten about the Moving Cloud. I wanted to learn it when I was a new player, set it aside for later but later never came. So....guess which reel I'm learning next? :P

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Jayhawk wrote:Looks fairly normal to me...pinkies are like singer's faces...they're always doing something weird the performer is not aware of.

Lovely playing, and I'd forgotten about the Moving Cloud. I wanted to learn it when I was a new player, set it aside for later but later never came. So....guess which reel I'm learning next? :P

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Ben - you're dead on mate. Looking at the dots on the session.org, it's not bad at all. I think I last attempted it back in 2000 or so.

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When I was learning the Moving Cloud, I found that this alternate fingering of high C makes things a lot easier: OXX XXO. Just don't blow too hard or you'll get high a...ouch!
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Gabriel wrote:When I was learning the Moving Cloud, I found that this alternate fingering of high C makes things a lot easier: OXX XXO. Just don't blow too hard or you'll get high a...ouch!
Yeah. REALLY high A!!! :o
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So many people comment on the pinky thing. I do it on all the stuff I play: whistles, pipes, flutes....It comes from playing the Bohme style flute where you almost always vent Eb. It just becomes automatic. I think my Copley sounds best when the Eb is vented anyways and I had Dave tune it accordingly.

This guys a great player!
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Caspermilktoast wrote:So many people comment on the pinky thing. I do it on all the stuff I play: whistles, pipes, flutes....It comes from playing the Bohme style flute where you almost always vent Eb. It just becomes automatic. I think my Copley sounds best when the Eb is vented anyways and I had Dave tune it accordingly.

This guys a great player!
With Tommi it definitely doesn't come from playing a Boehm style flute. ASAIK he's never played one, and he certainly hasn't for many years. And he's not all that many years old! (Relatively. :) )
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Which pinky was Feadoggie referring to ?
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I saw that vid the other day and the first thing I noticed was the draped-over (piper's) grip on the upper hand. I've tried that on my flute but I have to roll the upper section so that the g# key is almost completely under the long f key. I find that a piper's grip is tough to pull off on a keyed flute.

Then of course I noticed the pinky. :)

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