Sour kraut and KimChee
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Sour kraut and KimChee
I love fermented foods.
Kraut and Kim chee are two of my favorites.
We recently found a cheap and small scale way to make both more easily than we have before;
http://www.perfectpickler.com/
Anyone else make their own?
Kraut and Kim chee are two of my favorites.
We recently found a cheap and small scale way to make both more easily than we have before;
http://www.perfectpickler.com/
Anyone else make their own?
Re: Sour kraut and KimChee
been know to, and way overdue for another batch.
The wife is a bit compulsive and we generally do a multi year batch, however.
The wife is a bit compulsive and we generally do a multi year batch, however.
Picture a bright blue ball just spinning, spinning free
It's dizzying, the possibilities. Ashes, Ashes all fall down.
It's dizzying, the possibilities. Ashes, Ashes all fall down.
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Re: Sour kraut and KimChee
All my life I never could like sauerkraut, mainly because of the acid content. I tried. Now it does really offensive things with my innards, so I have the excuse of public safety to beg off with. OTOH I love me some kimchee. And it doesn't rot me from within.
I only recently found out that kimchee is really not just that one thing made of Napa cabbage as we know it in the States, but is actually a general concept that in real traditional Korean cuisine can be based on many things, including radishes, and isn't always spicy.
I only recently found out that kimchee is really not just that one thing made of Napa cabbage as we know it in the States, but is actually a general concept that in real traditional Korean cuisine can be based on many things, including radishes, and isn't always spicy.
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Re: Sour kraut and KimChee
I also like both sauerkraut and kimchee, although I have never tried making it myself. I can get kimchee at several of the Chinese restaurants that I go to. To save on the food bill, I often shop at a low-cost food store, named Aldi's, which has German owners. Aldi's carries an assortment of European foods at very reasonable prices, compared to the regular food stores, where imported food is usually quite expensive. I recently bought two jars of pickled/fermented vegetables with a German label. One is a German-style sauerkraut, which is made in Poland. It is very tasty in comparison to other American-made kraut that I have purchased. Another that I am having for dinner tonight is pickled red cabbage and apples, made in the Netherlands. I have German roots on my mother's side of the family, and that is surely the reason that I have an affinity for these foods, including their chocolate.
Re: Sour kraut and KimChee
One of the things that really surprised me when I first worked in Korea was the number of "German style" beer hall/restaurants I saw around Seoul. The times I tried them, they were a pretty decent for a late-night meal, though they substituted kimchee for sauerkraut as often as not.
A Korean coworker claimed that they was a natural affinity between Korean (pork, kimchee, soju) and German (pork, kraut, beer) drinking cultures that made them popular. He might well have been right, but I don't recall seeing huge numbers of Korean places when I was in Germany
A Korean coworker claimed that they was a natural affinity between Korean (pork, kimchee, soju) and German (pork, kraut, beer) drinking cultures that made them popular. He might well have been right, but I don't recall seeing huge numbers of Korean places when I was in Germany
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Could it be the chilis and garlic, do you think?
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Thanks for the link Maki. Gotta order me one of those!
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Re: Sour kraut and KimChee
Welcome Paul.
We've been getting alot of use out of ours.
Now we are exprimenting with different recipes, onion and garlic kimchee, Japanese style pickled cabbage(tsukemono).
Cheap and fun.
A helpful hint maybe to buy Beano by the case. Good luck!
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We have several books too. The one we found most useful is,
The Complete Idiot's Guide to Fermenting Foods
http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Idiots-G ... 1615641505
Its no nonsense guide to fermenting foods, and even has instructions for a DIY
air lock fermenter.
We've been getting alot of use out of ours.
Now we are exprimenting with different recipes, onion and garlic kimchee, Japanese style pickled cabbage(tsukemono).
Cheap and fun.
A helpful hint maybe to buy Beano by the case. Good luck!
Edited to add-
We have several books too. The one we found most useful is,
The Complete Idiot's Guide to Fermenting Foods
http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Idiots-G ... 1615641505
Its no nonsense guide to fermenting foods, and even has instructions for a DIY
air lock fermenter.
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Re: Sour kraut and KimChee
Got our fermenter yesterday and I put up a batch of basic kimchee in about 15 min this afternoon. This is very easy and the possibilities are quite intriguing.
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Re: Sour kraut and KimChee
Still no bubbles
My former homebrewing experience had me hoping for quicker results.
My former homebrewing experience had me hoping for quicker results.
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Re: Sour kraut and KimChee
You didn't forget to add the whiskey, did you?brewerpaul wrote:Still no bubbles
My former homebrewing experience had me hoping for quicker results.
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Re: Sour kraut and KimChee
I don't always have bubbles.
As long as you have brine comming up around the cabbage.
If its any comfort, we been using this fermentor for a couple of months
and haven't a bad batch yet.
As long as you have brine comming up around the cabbage.
If its any comfort, we been using this fermentor for a couple of months
and haven't a bad batch yet.
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It's alive!
Yesterday I noticed bubbles within the cabbage of the Kimchi, and the water in the airlock has all pushed to one side from the pressure. I think I'm gonna have to steal me a taste...
Yesterday I noticed bubbles within the cabbage of the Kimchi, and the water in the airlock has all pushed to one side from the pressure. I think I'm gonna have to steal me a taste...
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Re: Sour kraut and KimChee
Sláinte!
Did you use napa cabage? White radish? Tons of chili flakes? Garlic? Fish sauce, or dried shrimp?
Did you use napa cabage? White radish? Tons of chili flakes? Garlic? Fish sauce, or dried shrimp?
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Re: Sour kraut and KimChee
Everything but the fish sauce. I'm planning on adding some to taste after it's finished fermenting. I did go on the light side with the chili flakes 'cause my wife can't handle things too hot. I also added chopped fresh ginger. Tomorrow afternoon will be the end of the recommended 4 days in the fermenter.maki wrote:Sláinte!
Did you use napa cabage? White radish? Tons of chili flakes? Garlic? Fish sauce, or dried shrimp?
I open it up this morning and snitch out a little piece of Napa. Wow! The flavor was terrific. A bit of the ginger came along with it and I had the greatest flavor in my mouth for at least a half hour. I'll probably start another batch of something pretty much right away .
Do you tend to save some of the liquid as a starter for your next batch?