A Tolkien Poll: the Ringbearers' Fate

Post by **Nanohedron** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:38 pm

jsluder wrote:
Nanohedron wrote:Argh.
Grrr. Argh.

You dare to summon forces beyond your human control. Don't come crying to me when you get accosted by a wraith or something.

gonzo914 · Post by **gonzo914** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:39 pm

Nanohedron wrote:
gonzo914 wrote:
Nanohedron wrote: May it be well that you misspelt this, as it is a peril to bring to light here on the boards.
I can only offer in my defense that I have never actually read the damn thing, and the only place I have seen it in print is in D&D, where it it is spelled 'mithral.'

The first hundred or so pages are a killer, and I've always given up and switched to something more entertaining, like "The Greatest Works of Warren G. Harding" or "The Complete History of German Philosophy."
You did it again. STOP IT.

There is a troll - one must not speak his name - who arises at the smell of it. Change the "A" for an "I", and search. I must reveal no more.

Don't make me send you butt pliers.

Post by **Nanohedron** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:41 pm

gonzo914 wrote:
Nanohedron wrote:
gonzo914 wrote: I can only offer in my defense that I have never actually read the damn thing, and the only place I have seen it in print is in D&D, where it it is spelled 'mithral.'

The first hundred or so pages are a killer, and I've always given up and switched to something more entertaining, like "The Greatest Works of Warren G. Harding" or "The Complete History of German Philosophy."
You did it again. STOP IT.

There is a troll - one must not speak his name - who arises at the smell of it. Change the "A" for an "I", and search. I must reveal no more.
Don't make me send you butt pliers.

Pliers? To partly quote Roseanne Barr, you couldn't pull it out with a tractor.

jsluder · Post by **jsluder** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:01 pm

Nanohedron wrote:You dare to summon forces beyond your human control.

No problem. I'll just duck.

A-Musing · Post by **A-Musing** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:05 pm

Frankly, my dear, I don't even wanna KNOW what Roseanne Barr has pulled out with her tractor...

Lambchop · Post by **Lambchop** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:17 pm

Oh! How quickly we descend from lofty discourse!

What the heck are butt pliers?

Denny · Post by **Denny** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:21 pm

ya had to ask...

mamakash · Post by **mamakash** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:42 pm

What happened to Bilbo, Frodo, and Sam when they crossed the Sea to the Blessed Lands? My vote . . . neither. My reply . . . who cares?

For a change of films, watch "The Last Unicorn". Discuss. Book and Screenplay written by Peter Beagle. Hey, and Christopher Lee in it, at least vocally. An amazing book and animated film that appeals more to adults than children. It still makes me cry!

gonzo914 · Post by **gonzo914** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:45 pm

Lambchop wrote:Oh! How quickly we descend from lofty discourse!

What the heck are butt pliers?

These --

Heavy duty butt pliers to aid in the removal of needle from asses.

Lambchop · Post by **Lambchop** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:58 pm

Can I change my vote?

cowtime · Post by **cowtime** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:37 pm

gonzo914 wrote:
Lambchop wrote:Oh! How quickly we descend from lofty discourse!

What the heck are butt pliers?
These --

Heavy duty butt pliers to aid in the removal of needle from asses.

Sorry your holiness, but those appear to be hoof nippers, not butt pliers...
perhaps of more use on your arch enemy?

Jens_Hoppe · Post by **Jens_Hoppe** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:28 am

peeplj wrote:I have always been under the impression that they crossed the Sea for a time of healing and peace before they died.

I am sure this is confirmed by Tolkien himself in one of his published letters. In short, mortal races are mortal and it is not within the jurisdiction or power of the Valar to grant them elf-like immortality.

jbarter · Post by **jbarter** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:58 am

Jens_Hoppe wrote:
peeplj wrote:I have always been under the impression that they crossed the Sea for a time of healing and peace before they died.
I am sure this is confirmed by Tolkien himself in one of his published letters. In short, mortal races are mortal and it is not within the jurisdiction or power of the Valar to grant them elf-like immortality.

Speaking as a stupid fat hobbit I would like it to be known that I aint'nt dead.

Tyler · Post by **Tyler** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:43 am

mamakash wrote: For a change of films....

Er, films?
films?

wee don need no steenkin films...

TelegramSam · Post by **TelegramSam** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:26 am

I read somewhere that they ended up on Tol Eressea, "The Lonely Isle" not the Undying Lands. I wish I could remember where I read that, I think it might have been in one of those lost tales type books that Tolkien's son put together.

If anything, they probably simply were given a time to heal and gain a bit of peace before passing on. They were, after all, mortal, and it's quite clearly stated in several places (especially throughout the Silmarillion) that the final fate of the souls of mortals is not the same as that of the Elves, though nobody knows what Illuvitar (the Creator of Middle-Earth) had in mind for them, not even the Valar.

Them gaining immortality in the Undying Lands wouldn't make sense at all in the context of Tolkien's world, just wouldn't follow the rules of it at all.

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