Are there any depths to which rock would never sink? Perhaps ...... but striving for Wagnerian bombast sure ain't one of them. Who does the best (worst?) job of it? Here is my shortlist of contenders:
Meatloaf
Pete Townshend
Rammstein
Queen
AC/DC
Phil Spector
As befits the topic, the list is kinda long and I' suspect you'll make it even longer.
Who is the Wagner of Rock?
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Re: Who is the Wagner of Rock?
Queen was trying the hardest, but lacked just a hair of the requisite hysterical teutonics.
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Re: Who is the Wagner of Rock?
OMG! You left out King Crimsom and Robert Fripp! Oh! I have a pain in my left arm! I still prefer Herbert Von Karajan though.
Re: Who is the Wagner of Rock?
I'll second the last two posts
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Re: Who is the Wagner of Rock?
I don't know what you mean by "Wagner of Rock" but I do know that Pink Floyd is the be all, end all of Rock, so I guess that would include "Wagner of Rock".
Close the thread.
Close the thread.
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Re: Who is the Wagner of Rock?
someone stop him Picture a bright blue ball just spinning, spinning free
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Re: Who is the Wagner of Rock?
We don't need any Wagners of rock, or any Wagner at all come to think of it. Neither Wagner nor Karajan is knowingly allowed to besmirch any loudspeaker in my house. I've never understood what Barenboim thinks he's up to, playing Wagner in the Middle East. 
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He jested, quaff'd and swore."
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What's the beef against Wagner himself? Yes, one of his kids was a Nazi, and yes, Nazis liked his music, but what's known about his relationship with aryanism?
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Re: Who is the Wagner of Rock?
Perhaps not, but we are stuck with them. As for the aesthetic, I'd bet that if it hadn't been Wagner it would have been someone else. There is something sort of inevitable about it.SteveShaw wrote:We don't need any Wagners of rock, or any Wagner at all come to think of it.
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Re: Who is the Wagner of Rock?
Stuck with him in the sense thst many a composer was unduly influenced by him. I have no difficulty in excluding his over-loud, self-regarding and egotistical music from my house. He was rabidly antisemitic and he made some very offensive remarks about Felix Mendelssohn, a Jew, becauuse of his Jewishness. He would have been Hitler's best sidekick.
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He jested, quaff'd and swore."
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Re: Who is the Wagner of Rock?
Foreshadowing People, Foreshadowing.mutepointe wrote:I don't know what you mean by "Wagner of Rock" but I do know that Pink Floyd is the be all, end all of Rock, so I guess that would include "Wagner of Rock".
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That'll do. Thanks.SteveShaw wrote:He was rabidly antisemitic and he made some very offensive remarks about Felix Mendelssohn, a Jew, becauuse of his Jewishness. He would have been Hitler's best sidekick.
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Re: Who is the Wagner of Rock?
How can one improve on blonde braids and horned helmets??? There is no comparison.
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Who can forget Elmer Fudd and Bugs Bunny... Kill The WabbitLambchop wrote:How can one improve on blonde braids and horned helmets??? There is no comparison.
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Re: Who is the Wagner of Rock?
Wombat wrote:Are there any depths to which rock would never sink? Perhaps ...... but striving for Wagnerian bombast sure ain't one of them. Who does the best (worst?) job of it? Here is my shortlist of contenders:
Meatloaf
Pete Townshend
Rammstein
Queen
AC/DC
Phil Spector
As befits the topic, the list is kinda long and I' suspect you'll make it even longer.
The most recent culprits are Muse. Their latest album, The Resistance, is overblown, overproduced, self-indulgent twaddle of the highest order (IMHO). Depending on my mood at the time it's gloriously OTT..............or unlistenable drivel.
Mutter by Rammstein is an album I really rather enjoy.
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