Beginners Need This.....

Post by **Dale** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 6:34 pm

From time to time I get email from beginners regarding the difference between jigs, reels, hornpipes, etc. I field these questions, but I do wish there was a website somewhere to send these people to. Does anyone know of any. If not, it sure ought to be out there. What would be great would be a table that would name each of the traditional types of tunes, the time signature, a MIDI file that sort of demos each in a deliberately simple way so as to make it clear, and then even a sample of each.

Anyway, does anyone remember seeing one somewhere.

avanutria · Post by **avanutria** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 6:34 pm

Sounds like something for the Annex. Is DazedinLA still around?

Post by **Dale** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 6:39 pm

Agreed. It'd be perfect for the 'Nex. Where IS Dazed?

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 6:47 pm

Dale, good question... was it mad4trad?
http://www.madfortrad.com/

Jerry Freeman · Post by **Jerry Freeman** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 6:49 pm

Hi, Dale.

Why not take some of the posts from the recent "Jigs, Reels, etc. ..." string, get permission from those who posted the messages you would like to reproduce somewhere else on C&F, and paste together a little compilation of introductory info. Then you can post that info permanently at the logical place on C&F. I think most of it is there in that one string, yes?

Best wishes,
Jerry

mvhplank · Post by **mvhplank** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 6:53 pm

Clips & Snips ought to be in on this too, yes?

M

Tony · Post by **Tony** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 6:58 pm

Existing sites w/ midi files:
http://user.tninet.se/%7Ewvi171j/index.html
http://www.rblakeley.com/music/

HDSarah · Post by **HDSarah** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 7:14 pm

In the "Frequently Asked Questions" section of Alan Ng's Irish tune index site, he gives fairly short descriptions of the different rhythms. There are links to examples but I didn't try any -- not sure if they're just abc or if they're "listenable." Anyway, check this out, it might be close to what you're looking for.

http://www.irishtune.info/rhythm/

Sarah

elliott · Post by **elliott** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 8:57 pm

How about Whistletutor.com?

TonyHiggins · Post by **TonyHiggins** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 9:06 pm

You are more than welcome to use or link to Clips and Snips. The posted tunes are copyrighted by their owners and on the site by their permission. The "news" text, etc, is mine, and I give permission to anyone who has a use for it. (There are direct quotes in quotation marks attributed to the authors, if that means anything.)
Tony

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Soineanta · Post by **Soineanta** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 11:23 pm

whistletutor.com is one winner, at least. It has exactly what you're looking for Dale: a list of hornpipe, reel, polka, and slip jig, the time sigs and audio clips.

Lorenzo · Post by **Lorenzo** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 4:15 am

http://homepages.valylink.net.au/~ausreg/music.html
This is one of the more interesting MIDI sites which includes a wide variety type of tunes. It has the traditional full-band sound (of sorts), at least it doesn't sound like a piano or church organ, and it allows you to choose the instrument of your choice(about 10-12 options), and block out the ones you don't like.

Even a simple MIDI sequencer (vanBosko's Karaoke Player), which is a free download, allows you to slow the tune down w/o changing pitch, or TUNE TO YOUR instrument w/o changing rythm, and create your own arrangemnt.

Scroll down to "Moving in Decency" for example.
http://tadpole.aus.as/morecelt/xtracelt.htm
You'll want to block out the funny stuff like "space voice" unless you have an exceptional sound card. The "whistle" can also sound good or bad depending on your system.

Cees · Post by **Cees** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 9:15 am

Here's a site that has a fairly simple explanation for the different types of tunes:

http://home.attbi.com/~celticairsn/inst_irish.htm

Also some info here, in different categories:
http://www.whistleworkshop.co.uk/whistle.htm

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jim stone · Post by **jim stone** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 3:48 pm

Thanks for the great links.

AnnaDMartinez · Post by **AnnaDMartinez** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 7:00 pm

On 2003-01-04 05:15, Lorenzo wrote:
http://homepages.valylink.net.au/~ausreg/music.html
This is one of the more interesting MIDI sites which includes a wide variety type of tunes. It has the traditional full-band sound (of sorts), at least it doesn't sound like a piano or church organ, and it allows you to choose the instrument of your choice(about 10-12 options), and block out the ones you don't like.

Even a simple MIDI sequencer (vanBosko's Karaoke Player), which is a free download, allows you to slow the tune down w/o changing pitch, or TUNE TO YOUR instrument w/o changing rythm, and create your own arrangemnt.

Scroll down to "Moving in Decency" for example.
http://tadpole.aus.as/morecelt/xtracelt.htm
You'll want to block out the funny stuff like "space voice" unless you have an exceptional sound card. The "whistle" can also sound good or bad depending on your system.

Hi, Lorenzo, Ron Clarke aka Aus REG is a good buddy of mine, and he also has jillions of tunes stashed at Henry Kocklin's site:http://mysongbook.de/msb/welcome.html
Between the two of them the have one heeck of a collection of midis. I learned most of what I know off his midis. Try some of his originals, too! Tadpole Tunes really has some charmers there! He's a nifty nifty human being, who basically put his site together as a gft when he got too arthritic to play! He's one kewl dood! He's the one that send me my first whistle ever!

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