Sweetone C-nat troubles

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I'm a beginning player; I've got two Sweetones (a C and D) and whenever I try the C-nat on the D (or the B-flat on the C), it sounds TERRIBLE. As is not correct. I've tried the following fingerings:
OXX OOO (the "recommended" fingering)
OXX OXO
OXO XXX

And nothing sounds right. I know almost everyone has a Sweetone and I'm wondering--is this just a function of the instrument or am I doing something wrong? Any suggestions? I know I could half-hole but I have a really hard time with that and am hoping there's a cross-fingering I can use. Help!
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Post by Cees »

I've never had any problem with my Sweetone D on the c-natural. Try this fingering, if you like:
OXXXOX

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I've got the same problems with my Shaw D -- I need to use 0xxxx0 to get a c-natural. On my Sweetone C it isn't so bad, 0xx000 is close enough for government work, although it sounds a little sharp to me. I'm tempted to move towards half-holing for c-nat.
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Post by The Weekenders »

I suggested this before but noone commented:
oxxoxx. I use this all the time on my Burkes and it sounds great

The roll is oxxoxx / oxxxxx/oxxoxx/xxxoxx/oxxoxx

This came from LE McCullough's old Tutor book with the white cover.
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Try putting some scotch tape over about the upper fourth of the highest tone hole on the whistle. This should bring the C-natural down into pitch with the o x x | o o o fingering, without flattening C-sharp too much.

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I'm happy with OXX OXX for the first C on my Sweetone D, and OXX XXO for the high C.
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Post by Kar »

Thanks, everyone. I've tried some of the new fingerings and they do sound a little bit better.
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I tried the scotch tape trick, and it worked beautifully. My Sweetone is the unpainted variety, so this makes me wonder if the pitch is affected by the lack of paint.

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I have one of the painted ones, and still find that I need the tape to make the "normal" c-natural fingering work.

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