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Flageolets?

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I went over to the music shop in Barnet today to see if there were any sweetones in D. (I had borrowed one off a friend and i think he will want it back soon) anyway they didn't have any :(

but they had this big card rack full of these flageolets in all sorts of keys. I didn't get one because I decided i like the sweetone for now, its easier to play for me as a beginner it seems.

So what is the difference between a normal whistle and a flageolet ?? :-? they looked very similar, made of brass (i think) with a red plastic mouthpiece.
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monkey wrote: but they had this big card rack full of these flageolets in all sorts of keys.
Did it look like this?
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Post by fearfaoin »

They may not have been actual flageolets. Some people seem to use the
terms "Flageolet" and "Tin whistle" interchangeably, like on this page. I'm
guessing you were actually looking at Generation whistles.

Ah. According to wikipedia, the French flageolet has 4 holes on the front, and
two on the back, and the English flageolet is an earlier name for tinwhistles
(before they were made of tin...)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flageolet


Edit: ID10-T beat me to it.
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I.D.10-t wrote:
monkey wrote: but they had this big card rack full of these flageolets in all sorts of keys.
Did it look like this?
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Yeah EXACTLY like that !
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Post by I.D.10-t »

As fearfaoin wrote, it seems that they are using the terms interchangeably.
Here is a great read on flageolets though if you are interested.
http://www.flageolets.com/Articles/flageolet_family.htm
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monkey wrote:
I.D.10-t wrote:
monkey wrote: but they had this big card rack full of these flageolets in all sorts of keys.
Did it look like this?
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Yeah EXACTLY like that !
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Cynth wrote:

Yeah EXACTLY like that !
:lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]


:-? Are they not a good make ?
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monkey wrote: :-? Are they not a good make ?
Quite the opposite. They're some of the most popular, widely-known, and commonly-used whistles out there. In fact, there was a time when Generations were really the only whistles to be had, from what I've heard.
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monkey wrote: :-? Are they not a good make ?
You may want to read about generation whistles here.

http://www.chiffandfipple.com/inexp.html
The difficult thing about Generation whistles is poor quality control, on the one hand, while on the other hand, if you can find a “good” Generation, you’ll often find yourself one outstanding instrument.
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I.D.10-t wrote:
monkey wrote: :-? Are they not a good make ?
You may want to read about generation whistles here.

http://www.chiffandfipple.com/inexp.html
The difficult thing about Generation whistles is poor quality control, on the one hand, while on the other hand, if you can find a “good” Generation, you’ll often find yourself one outstanding instrument.
The author says this...
I finally found myself a really good Generation D after about three years of looking

THREE YEARS!! :o I'm glad I didn't get one now.
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Ahh, but the one that you didn't get could have been that Perfect Gen.....so now it will be 6 years before you find it. ;) :lol: Generations can be tweaked into good whistles. Jerry Freeman and others do great tweaks.
I then came home, and went whistling all over the house, much pleased with my whistle, but disturbing all the family.

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Celtic983 wrote:Generations can be tweaked into good whistles.
A huge number of people play un-tweaked Generations really well, too.

-Craig
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monkey wrote:
Cynth wrote:

Yeah EXACTLY like that !
:lol: :lol: :lol:

:-? Are they not a good make ?[/quote]
I was just laughing because seldom is there such certainty about what someone is talking about on a forum. And here we have a picture that is EXACTLY what you are talking about, display and all! It just struck me as sort of funny. It was no comment on those particular whistles with which I have no experience. I've heard pretty much what everyone else has been saying.
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Craig Stuntz wrote: A huge number of people play un-tweaked Generations really well, too.

-Craig
Yep thats true, I guess my point was that even if one did get a bad generation, it wouldn't necessarily be a waste. It could be made into a very good whistle.
I then came home, and went whistling all over the house, much pleased with my whistle, but disturbing all the family.

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Post by shadeclan »

I always thought that whistles were for playing music and flageolets were made mainly for beating (flagellating) people and for playing music in-between the beatings. I would think that a Serpent Chrome-Moly would be the ultimate "flageolet". :twisted:

I'm sure that WhistlinBob Image can relate! :lol:
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